Exactly. The important thing is The Den in back up. I wanted to bring up that I ran into both Smith & Thomas. If Thomas is a legit 6'8", then Smith only has him my 1/2 an inch. Smith also outweighs him by 50lbs. Smith has big shoulders & has a strong lower body. The kid has the exact built as Carater, just a bit softer. Thomas has put on about 15lbs of muscle. He looks strong. Willms looks like he has put on about 15lbs as well. I've seen all player except for Williams. I ran into them @ the kids bball camp. Floyd was there & all the players were hugging & joking with CTF. It didn't look like there was any disconnect.