I know, but Harvard football isn't the kind of football power team that UTEP and don't even try. they are Harvard. Now if Natalicio came out and said we aren't going to try because we are UTEP I could appreciate the honesty. But, nope that ain't it. Supposedly, we are trying, like Stanford. We just can play football like Stanford. And maybe we can't play academics like Stanford either. But, that what we aspire to be. At least that's what UTEP is selling.