Why Are Perennial Losers Perennial Losers?

[kyyote]

When you are a UTEP Miners football fan, when that team is the team that represents the university that you love, you have plenty of opportunities to think about losing.  UTEP should offer a Doctoral Program in Losing.  Most of us longtime fans could test out and be awarded the degrees, especially if there were verbal exams before boards of fellow Doctorates in Losing.
 
 

But, today, I thought I would narrow the topic a bit.  First, we have to acknowledge that there are such a thing as winners and losers.  They can change over time and one can become the other, but we have to agree that there are losers.  Everyone is a winner and everyone has experienced losing.  But, there are the Golden Childs and there are the Born Losers.  And what is also true is that there is a certain amount of human nature that reverts to the animalistic behavior of pecking and picking on the "loser" to drive them out.  We would love to deny it, but there is that part of us that is more than ok with it.  Now wait a minute!  I'm not talking about a regular old day to day person having a tough time.  No, they get all of the right emotions and thoughts.  Nope, I'm talking about the "born losers".  It is almost like they like it and deserve it, but we know that is just bs.  But, still.  There is that feeling.  What a loser!  Contempt and so much more.
 
 
Are the Born Losers genetically predetermined or did they learn to be losers.  Nature versus nurture.  Native American burial grounds, the Curse of the Bambino, or living down to the standards and expectations of a tradition of losing.  Who knows?  My question is, can a born loser change that, or it the answer in the name?  Can UTEP Football ever be anything other than it has been for more than a few years once in a Blue Moon?
 

Of course it can.  The world is full of stories about the hopeless finding a way.  Or a way finding them.  They are the very best stories of all, and we love them.  Even when we are proved wrong.  More so, maybe, because it reinforces our having faith in turning the things around in our own lives.  Not today, necessarily, but a some time when we need it them most.  I hope our worm gets turned sooner than later. We've been down for so long we have to look up to see the soles of our feet.
 

But, we continue to look up, and build character, perhaps.  We are, after all, Miners.
 

[SisyphusMiner]

Consistently losing is a mindset.  So is consistently winning.  I think winning and losing is learned, but I think it is also fed by basic personality type.

I think losers can learn to win, but it requires setting them up to succeed consistently.  It takes special circumstances that a college coach may not be able to create.  It takes a lot of time.

I think that some coaches strategy of finding players from winning programs has a lot of merit.  They come in with the attitude that they will find a way to win.  Then you have to NOT train them to lose.
It's the accumulation of all the little battles on a daily basis that you either win or lose that sets you up for the big test on Saturday.

I think Kug has taught his players to lose by consistently putting them in unwinnable situations (individually). 

I think a winning team is a team that has a solid majority of individuals with winning mindsets, nurturing the winning attitude daily by putting them in increasingly difficult but winnable situations.

If you ever read "How to Win Friends and Influence People", I think the specific advice is OK, but the real gold is in understanding Carnegie's underlying attitude towards things.  This mindset is a winning mindset.

[kyyote]

That mental aspect is why a coach came come in and do great things with the last losing coach's players.  They believe they have a chance of winning again.  When a team comes out "flat" with no energy it tells you all you need to know.  It isn't giving up, no the players are of too good of character to just give up, but their hearts have lost that burning desire.  The players are going out to do what they have to do.  Good soldiers march into battle knowing they are going to die faced with overwhelming force.  They don't do it enthusiastically.  They just do it.  I believe he lost the team two or three years ago.  They know what we know.  They have also learned that Kugler always puts them in the position of losing.  It takes a while for the learning of this one truth and each class has to learn it in their own time.  It has now become the way it is at UTEP and recruits learn the way it is very quickly. 

[zyxwvutsru]

fuck 'em and feed 'em fish