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Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2021, 06:52:40 PM »
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  • I really feel like the main thing our offense is missing is a decent mid-range game.  I loved the couple passes to the FB and TE and I think that's open for us a lot more than we utilize.  I was also happy when we hit whoever it was on that slant.  I would be ecstatic if we gave up on the wildcat.

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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #16 on: October 31, 2021, 07:40:31 PM »
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  • I just thought I would post this from Wikipedia;

    "The Wildcat scheme is a derivation of Pop Warner's Single Wing offense dating back to the 1920s. The Wildcat was invented by Billy Ford and Ryan Wilson, and was originally called the "Dual" formation.[citation needed] The offensive coaching staff of the Kansas State Wildcats, namely Bill Snyder and Del Miller, made significant contributions to the formation's development throughout the 1990s and 2000s and is often cited as being the formation's namesake. It has been used since the late 1990s at every level of the game, including the CFL, NFL, NCAA, NAIA, and high schools across North America. Coaching staffs have used it with variations and have given their versions a variety of names. The Wildcat was popularized in the first decade of the 2000s by South Carolina Gamecocks coach Steve Spurrier to utilize Syvelle Newton in all offensive positions on the field. It was also used in that decade by Arkansas Razorbacks to utilize the unique skill-set of their three running backs of Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, and Peyton Hillis. Though its popularity as a regular offensive weapon has waned in recent years as defenses have adapted to it, some teams will still use it occasionally to run a trick play."

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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #17 on: October 31, 2021, 08:27:09 PM »
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  • I hate the wildcat too as it doesn't hide the fact that the QB will do some running. It could work really well if the QB behind center had a good arm and the defense wouldn't know if he would run or pass. But with Brownholz everyone knows that he can't throw a ball at the side of a barn...LOL sometimes Hardison can't either.

    I wish I could buy the coach and let him know what he's doing isn't working sometimes. Sometimes it takes someone to open ones eyes because they can't see it.


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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #18 on: November 02, 2021, 11:30:56 AM »
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  • Looking at stats

    Our defense moved up in total D.  You could believe that it's mainly because of time of possession, but we are #6 in the country in 3rd down conversion defense.  We are #4 in red zone defense.  That's where it's at right there.  Obviously keeping the D off the field helps, but it's not just because our O chews up clock.  We get a LOT of 3 and outs.  We better be planning on giving our D coordinator a huge raise or we're gonna lose him.

    Our offense is ranked in the top 75 which is good enough considering we slow things down so much, and our D is so punishing.

    Special teams is worse than I realized.  We are ranked 95 or lower in kickoff returns, kickoff defense, punt returns, and punt defense.  That's field position we don't need to be giving up.  On top of being one of the worst at defending punt returns, we are #84 in the country at punt distance.  If our opponent was ranked #50 in these areas, this means that if we hold the opponent to 3 and out and they punt, and then we go 3 and out and punt, we've lost about 20 yards of field position.  Net punting is an available stat, and we are ranked 120 at net 35 yards.  Special teams is very bad and it makes a difference in close games.


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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #19 on: November 02, 2021, 11:59:41 AM »
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  • Very interesting and perceptive.

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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #20 on: November 02, 2021, 06:48:52 PM »
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  • D line is obviously dominant, secondary has stepped up, O-line is good, & the running backs are good.
    Where we struggle is play calling, QB, & recievers not named Cowing. If one of these things improves, we are better than UTSA.
      "He who has nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature & has no chance of being free unless kept so by better men than himself.

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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #21 on: November 03, 2021, 07:55:43 AM »
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  • Peveto interview from the summer:

    Q: What would you say Miner fans can expect to see from the defense during the 2021 season?
     
    Peveto: We are going to be attacking and very multiple. We are going to play extremely hard with great effort, and we will be a great fundamentally-based defense. To me, if you get guys to play hard and you are fundamentally sound and very multiple, then that is going to solve a lot of problems. The thing in defense is you want to make sure that you are not giving up explosive plays and that you are making the offense earn it. If you do that, then you have a chance to be a good defense. I felt like we were able to get that accomplished this spring. I thought we were really good at not giving up explosive plays. We just have to continue that into the fall

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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #22 on: November 03, 2021, 04:34:52 PM »
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  • "The thing in defense is you want to make sure that you are not giving up explosive plays and that you are making the offense earn it." Oh, except on that TD pass with 10 seconds to go in the Faux game. Boy, was that one TD that was not earned.


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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #23 on: November 03, 2021, 05:23:46 PM »
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  • That's exactly why I posted it.  We gave up two explosive plays for two touchdowns and it would have been a completely different game otherwise.

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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #24 on: November 03, 2021, 07:45:46 PM »
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  • yeah, sisy and we thought the secondary had improved. back to the drawing board or ootsa is gonna kill us without remorse. they'll gonna try to show why they got into the ack as if that place was way better. it might have been before everyone started leaving, now it's cusa 3.0 and every conference except cusa is on even par.

    But i think cusa with no.dak and so.dak would overtake them all easily.


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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #25 on: November 03, 2021, 08:40:59 PM »
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  • Well the other explosive play I was referring to was the TD run.
    I think the announcers said the player that got lost was a freshman.  Maybe not the right time to have him in there, but I don?t think the bottom is dropping out.  The D didn?t just roll over and die.

    Agree that the Dakotas would likely be successful but thats a long trip.


    Do we feel like Dimel is building for long term success?  A lot of people think Stull built for short term and moved on.  Do we seem like our underclassmen are as good or better?  Or is it impossible to know because the K St model is to find under-recruited players?

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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #26 on: November 04, 2021, 10:18:51 AM »
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  • Well the other explosive play I was referring to was the TD run.
    I think the announcers said the player that got lost was a freshman.  Maybe not the right time to have him in there, but I don?t think the bottom is dropping out.  The D didn?t just roll over and die.

    Agree that the Dakotas would likely be successful but thats a long trip.


    Do we feel like Dimel is building for long term success?  A lot of people think Stull built for short term and moved on.  Do we seem like our underclassmen are as good or better?  Or is it impossible to know because the K St model is to find under-recruited players?

    At the speed commercial airlines fly now it would take about 2 to 2 and one half hours to get there. That's not too long. Especially in comparison to going to Thailand which is on the other side of El Paso. Now, that was a loooong flight. This flight would be a piece of cake.


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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #27 on: November 04, 2021, 12:15:31 PM »
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  • according to Orbitz, there are no direct flights from EP to Fargo. Shortest I see is 6 hours at about $500/person

    It's probably about the same for everyone else.  I imagine most flights to FArgo go through O'Hare.

    Maybe you're right and distance doesn't matter.  I mean right now we're just in survival mode trying to cobble a conference together

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    Re: Well, I'm Going To Disagree
    « Reply #28 on: November 04, 2021, 06:46:21 PM »
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  • according to Orbitz, there are no direct flights from EP to Fargo. Shortest I see is 6 hours at about $500/person

    It's probably about the same for everyone else.  I imagine most flights to FArgo go through O'Hare.

    Maybe you're right and distance doesn't matter.  I mean right now we're just in survival mode trying to cobble a conference together

    Now, that makes a big difference Sisy. I thought that there were direct flights to the north country. In that case it'll be something that they'll do only in case cusa can't get no one from the southern states. But, I don't think that's gonna be the case. Like in a thread I read that there were 30 interested fcs schools wanting to join. In a situation like that they can get the pick of the lot.