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SisyphusMiner

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Most Underperforming Team?
« on: January 20, 2020, 08:11:38 PM »
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  • Criteria:  Not "is this the worst team", the question is "Given the players and their ratings and hype, is this the most underperforming team?"

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    Re: Most Underperforming Team?
    « Reply #1 on: January 21, 2020, 03:39:26 AM »
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  • They're not over rated or underperforming.  The problem is that they have an assistant coach for a head coach...

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    Re: Most Underperforming Team?
    « Reply #2 on: January 21, 2020, 11:21:23 AM »
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  • I have to admit that I am confused by this team.  Williams is no doubt a stud basketball player.  Not in the way that Caracter was.  So, I wonder at times if the offense is basically designed to dink around, dink around, and try to get the ball to Williams.  Then, if the opponent is determined to not let Williams have free reign the team gets all fucked up, unless someone else decides to pick up the slack.  Sometimes, when that happens, there are flashes of what they could contribute.  I ask myself what this team would be able to do with Barbee, Gillespie, Sadler, or The Bear coaching them and I have no doubt that the team would be light years ahead of where they are.  So, it is hard to say that they are over rated because if Secretariat had Hoss Cartwright in the saddle it may not have won a race.  Would he have been over rated?  Underperforming?  Again, I ask how this team would do with another head coach and I feel like it would be a totally different team and much better.  But, I wonder if those coaches could get the players to buy into their older style of play.  I'm almost sure they could.  For one thing winning is so much more fun than sucking eggs and losing.  Terry's choice of players on the floor, what he has them trying to do, and his substitutions baffle me.  I ask myself how would this team look under the head coaches we have played.  Better or worse?  I think that is an easy one, don't you?  I think that is where the answer can be found.  But, I admit, the game is changing and maybe I just don't get it.

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    Re: Most Underperforming Team?
    « Reply #3 on: January 21, 2020, 11:36:47 AM »
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  • I'm not sure that the other coaches systems would be seen as "older style of play" vs what we have.  It really doesn't get any slower and more boring than passing it around the outside waiting to see if your big man is open.

    The game changes, but it doesn't really.  If all you have is a big man, the opponent double or triple teams him and dares you to do something to break them out of it.  The specifics of how you achieve that change a bit, but at the root it doesn't.    Historically there's two ways -- hit jump shots from the outside or guard penetration.  The frustrating thing is we have proven that guard penetration works for us.  We just won't utilize it.

    I suspect what is happening during the runs we make where we are penetrating and good things happen is our guys are improvising.  Much like the only positive offensive thing that ever happened with Kug is when Metz started calling his own plays.  I could be wrong.  Terry could be begging them to penetrate.  I worry that the offensive mind behind the Miners first couple games is the assistant that left.