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Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2017, 01:51:02 PM »
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  • The scholarship issue will be interesting. One RB, Dove, has already announced he will be transferring. A school is not allowed to recruit more than 25 players per year and place them on athletic scholarship and can't have more than 85 on scholarship. So if UTEP has 85 now, 84 with Dove gone, and UTEP lists 21 seniors on their roster, so down to 63. That would give UTEP just 22 scholarships for the upcoming recruiting class unless more players decide to transfer. If 10 more transferred out and UTEP was down to 53 scholarship players they still could not recruit more than 25 so they would be short of the 85 limit.

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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #16 on: December 03, 2017, 02:20:52 PM »
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  • I don't know who.  But, I have interviewed for jobs I knew I had and have been part of interview committees that were going through the process.  I don't know if we will ever know if I am right.  We'll see. 

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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #17 on: December 03, 2017, 04:07:22 PM »
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  • Keeler is past his prime & almost 60. He's not the future of Miner football. Unfortunately UTEP has this guy as a top 3 candidate.
    We need to go young.

    I’m not sure he’s past his prime.  The players will run through a wall for him.  Keeler also knows what type of wining football people like to see.

    He does recruit well, but that needs to be placed in the context of FCS.  By that, I mean, he can get good HS kids, but he can also get top-flight Houston-area kids who went to FBS schools and (for whatever reason) want to leave.  Since SHSU is The FCS, the kids don’t have to sit out a year when they transfer.  That won’t happen if he’s coaching at UTEP.

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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #18 on: December 03, 2017, 06:03:52 PM »
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  • Augie Touris is another UTEP player who has announcd that he will transfer, so that opens up another scholarship fir the next coach.

    If the “fix is in” and the job has already been decided as Kyyote believes, then my personal hope is that Houston is the man and we are just waiting for JMU’s season to end before we make him official.  Houston also withdrew his name from the Georgia Southern job around the same time that Senter got the UTEP job.  So that would be my choice, if we have already internally selected our coach.

    Here is a very positive article towards Houston, which also covers when he took his Citadel team and went and beat a SEC team(South Carolina):

    http://theopenman.com/2016/12/09/mike-houston-college-footballs-next-coaching-star/


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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #19 on: December 03, 2017, 07:53:32 PM »
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  • We need a great Christmas gift for this year since we've been getting bunches of coal in our stockings. Hopefully, after Senter is signed we'll know who it'll be. I lean towards Keeler like for the past 5 years or so.


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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #20 on: December 04, 2017, 04:29:45 AM »
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  • Here is a very positive article towards Houston, which also covers when he took his Citadel team and went and beat a SEC team(South Carolina):

    http://theopenman.com/2016/12/09/mike-houston-college-footballs-next-coaching-star/

    Am I correct in believing we have not beaten a cartel school in at least 50 years?

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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #21 on: December 04, 2017, 04:50:03 AM »
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  • Here is a very positive article towards Houston, which also covers when he took his Citadel team and went and beat a SEC team(South Carolina):

    http://theopenman.com/2016/12/09/mike-houston-college-footballs-next-coaching-star/

    Am I correct in believing we have not beaten a cartel school in at least 50 years?

    UTEP beat Mississippi (a sort of cartel school) in the 1967 Sun Bowl.  Maybe the Miners beat someone after that (BYU comes to mind and Arizona State in the 70’s) but I can’t think of any in the current iteration of college football’s landscape.

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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #22 on: December 04, 2017, 07:22:30 AM »
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  • If the “fix is in” and the job has already been decided as Kyyote believes, then my personal hope is that Houston is the man and we are just waiting for JMU’s season to end before we make him official.  Houston also withdrew his name from the Georgia Southern job around the same time that Senter got the UTEP job.  So that would be my choice, if we have already internally selected our coach.

    Here is a very positive article towards Houston, which also covers when he took his Citadel team and went and beat a SEC team(South Carolina):

    http://theopenman.com/2016/12/09/mike-houston-college-footballs-next-coaching-star/

    I agree that Houston would be the best man for the job, but I have a source that says he will not be coming to UTEP. The guy wants too much money and UTEP will not fork out that much at this time. He is a super hot coach right now and other schools are offering more. I have a feeling he will be headed to a Cartel Conference.
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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #23 on: December 04, 2017, 11:50:18 AM »
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  • Here is a very positive article towards Houston, which also covers when he took his Citadel team and went and beat a SEC team(South Carolina):

    http://theopenman.com/2016/12/09/mike-houston-college-footballs-next-coaching-star/

    Am I correct in believing we have not beaten a cartel school in at least 50 years?

    UTEP beat Mississippi (a sort of cartel school) in the 1967 Sun Bowl.  Maybe the Miners beat someone after that (BYU comes to mind and Arizona State in the 70’s) but I can’t think of any in the current iteration of college football’s landscape.

    lieb

    We also beat TCU when they were in the SWC.


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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #24 on: December 04, 2017, 01:04:52 PM »
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  • My personal take is that UTEP needs to run a system to compete with other school because recruiting here is horrendously difficult.  I would like someone from the Leach family tree or a triple option program like Navy/Ga Tech.

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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #25 on: December 04, 2017, 01:54:54 PM »
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  • Here is a very positive article towards Houston, which also covers when he took his Citadel team and went and beat a SEC team(South Carolina):

    http://theopenman.com/2016/12/09/mike-houston-college-footballs-next-coaching-star/

    Am I correct in believing we have not beaten a cartel school in at least 50 years?

    UTEP beat Mississippi (a sort of cartel school) in the 1967 Sun Bowl.  Maybe the Miners beat someone after that (BYU comes to mind and Arizona State in the 70’s) but I can’t think of any in the current iteration of college football’s landscape.

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    We also beat TCU when they were in the SWC.

    Was this when gas was $.25 per gallon?

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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #26 on: December 04, 2017, 08:49:49 PM »
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  • Things are super quiet on this HC search right now. None of the interviewers are on campus. That means things are super tippy top secret. Extra precautions being used to prevent leaks.
    I have a feeling it might be Keeler. Yes, the guy is qualified, but is only a bandaid (IMO). He's approaching 60 and UTEP would be his last stop.
    Pretty please, Mr. Stull, hire a good OC from a big program. Pretty please.
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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #27 on: December 05, 2017, 05:42:01 AM »
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    Pretty please, Mr. Stull, hire a good OC from a big program. Pretty please.

    Shouldn't we be asking Senter?

    It seems like in the case of a departing coach the scholarship limit should be adjusted.  It is to be expected that a lot would change, and it doesn't seem like the scholarship rules are intended for that situation.

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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #28 on: December 05, 2017, 09:42:59 AM »
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  • Things are super quiet on this HC search right now. None of the interviewers are on campus. That means things are super tippy top secret. Extra precautions being used to prevent leaks.
    I have a feeling it might be Keeler. Yes, the guy is qualified, but is only a bandaid (IMO). He's approaching 60 and UTEP would be his last stop.
    Pretty please, Mr. Stull, hire a good OC from a big program. Pretty please.

    You mean Senter not Stull, right? Personally I'm hoping for Keeler or Houston but Morris of TT, Yurcich of Okla St would be very good too. I'm not expecting an OC since they could have been hired already. Must be waiting for one of the FCS HC to finish their season. Could be a long wait which means recruiting will be more behind the 8 ball than usual.

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    Re: Keeler of SHSU is a candidate for UTEP FB coach
    « Reply #29 on: December 05, 2017, 12:23:38 PM »
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  • Both of them. Stull is heading the search & who brought in the candidates. Senter will be given the final best 3 & both he & Natalicio will pick.
      "He who has nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature & has no chance of being free unless kept so by better men than himself.