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College Football Attendance, UTEP Attendance
« on: December 11, 2022, 12:03:02 PM »
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  • I know that my less than optimistic attitude is a downer.  I guess I have never been one to look at a train coming at me and thinking Oh well.  I'm going to complain about it and see if there isn't something that can be done.  I believe the ncaa is killing amateur athletics ironically.  The lack of loyalty to the school leads to a lack of loyalty in the form of fan attendance.  That can't be a shock to anyone in power and making decisions.  At some point, it ends up distilling itself down to wins and losses being the only thing that attracts or doesn't, fans and revenue.

    I started to try and get some facts and numbers and the first thing I found was that attendance has been dropping for years, now.  It isn't just covid, or media availability at the stadium.  But what was amazing was that I found a list of 5 year averages for each of the 131 schools and it started with the ones with the worst attendance.  I thought instantly that I was looking at the Power Index or something.  The teams were almost the exact same teams and in almost the exact same order.

    130 Ball State
    129 Northern Illinois
    128 UMass
    127 Coastal Carolina
    126 Kent State
    125 Charlotte
    124 ULM
    123 Eastern Michigan
    122 Central Michigan
    121 San Jose State
    120 Georgia State
    119 UAB
    118 FIU
    117 New Mexico State
    99 UTEP
    2019 Ranking (2018 season): 89
    2018 Ranking (2017 season): 82

    5-Year Average: 19401.80
    Filled Stadium Capacity 37.31%

    Here is the espn Power Index rankings and they are exactly the same but they aren't far off;

     121 UConn Huskies
    New Mexico State Aggies
    Bowling Green Falcons
    Nevada Wolf Pack
    Colorado State Rams
    Colorado Buffaloes
    Akron Zips
    Charlotte 49ers
    New Mexico Lobos
    Hawai'i Rainbow Warriors
    UMass Minutemen
    131 Florida International Panthers

    I think the UTEP attendance shows the dramatic drop we have seen, dropping 7 places in one year.  Now, on the list of teams attendance rankings for the past five years from worst to best attendance. the first time a big 5 team shows up is at number 80, fifty lower tier teams into the list.  They are a notoriously bad football team.  They are followed by another, Duke. And Wake Forrest.  Back to mid-majors and now there starts to be more and more of the worst college teams in the cartels, like Vanderbilt, WA St., and Ore St..

    That mid-major teams don't have the attendance that cartel teams do is not the point.  The point is that they are losing attendance.  All of the teams, practically.  I will post the link and they almost all are just shedding fans-even most of the cartel teams.  The 15 teams, two or three from the big 5 who always win will always attract the bandwagoneers of bandwagoneers and have their attendance.  So, college football is slowly drying up like Lake Mead.  The NCAA knows it, and knows why.
    Doesn't look like that is going to change.  Without a word from the people hit first and worst, I would have to say they are cool with it.  So, it is kind of down to hoping the Miners win-so they can leave.  Yeah. 

    Now, that's doom and gloom.  Basketball will be the first to go because the lack of loyalty will be the most evident there.  Football should take a little longer, as the entire team won't be leaving and be replaced by all new players.  The basketball team? Well, it is going to take a little time getting used to saying, "I like that new kid.  I hope he leaves, soon!"  Kind of weird.

    Go Miners!

    ps In 21 it was 11.5k
    and up to21k n 22


    https://collegefootballnews.com/2020/03/attendance-rankings-averages-for-every-school-2020-cfn-five-year-program-analysis
    « Last Edit: December 11, 2022, 02:34:10 PM by kyyote »

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    Re: College Football Attendance, UTEP Attendance
    « Reply #1 on: December 12, 2022, 09:29:27 AM »
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  • I need to stop posting negativity.  Honestly my frustration isn't just with UTEP, it's the totality of what college sports has become.  I've stopped watching professional sports a while back and I'm about done with college.  The naked greed, the pomposity and false pride, the lack of any kind of integrity, anything goes to win today, is disgusting to me.  Which of the seven deadly sins is not now blatantly in your face?

    If the P5 schools are gonna be this way, let them.  If G5 had any integrity they'd say sayonara and form their own league.  But the greed is too powerful.

    Maybe I'm lying to myself, but I think I'd get behind college sports if the students had a relationship with the college, if there was sportsmanship and humility.  Sad thing is it trickles down.  You can see the attitudes taking hold at the high school levels. 

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    Re: College Football Attendance, UTEP Attendance
    « Reply #2 on: December 13, 2022, 04:39:33 PM »
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  • It seems to me that we are being subjected to becoming the minor leagues of CFB.  But, we get a shot at the major league teams throughout the ooc scheduling.  That's cool.  I like it.  It gives teams who try hard enough a chance to prove that they should move up.  I supposee that applies just as well to the players, in a way. 

    What I think I would look at changing is to have a Mid-Major Championship Playoffs.  As it is, over half of the teams begin the season with zero, no really, no chance of being the champions beyond their conference.  Maybe, some of the players had a chance at a championship and then there would be the whole espn bowl season for once becoming meaningful.  Random thought.

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    Re: College Football Attendance, UTEP Attendance
    « Reply #3 on: December 14, 2022, 01:26:29 PM »
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  • It seems to me that we are being subjected to becoming the minor leagues of CFB.  But, we get a shot at the major league teams throughout the ooc scheduling.  That's cool.  I like it.  It gives teams who try hard enough a chance to prove that they should move up.  I supposee that applies just as well to the players, in a way. 

    What I think I would look at changing is to have a Mid-Major Championship Playoffs.  As it is, over half of the teams begin the season with zero, no really, no chance of being the champions beyond their conference.  Maybe, some of the players had a chance at a championship and then there would be the whole espn bowl season for once becoming meaningful.  Random thought.

    I think it's a great idea. It's not like the Cartel doesn't already know that the G5 isn't a lower grade of football. Everyone knows it because the media, the ncaa and everyone that follows football knows that we'll never see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's been blocked by the powers that be. The sad part is that we'll become a higher level fcs championship and that kind of sucks. Everyone wants to play the big dog part but sadly none of these schools will ever see it unless they get elevated to a Cartel league and that's like a miracle that won't come easily.