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The Mine / Re: NOT TO RUB SALT IN THE WOUND BUT......
« Last post by SisyphusMiner on December 06, 2016, 09:52:45 PM »
CTF likes to say "If IH were here..."  But I think at this point we know that if IH were here, he wouldn't have been for more than a year anyway.
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The Mine / Re: Two Nice possible gets for Basketball
« Last post by SisyphusMiner on December 06, 2016, 09:51:39 PM »
Can't argue with that...
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The Mine / Re: 2017 Schedule, Yikes!
« Last post by Chanson on December 06, 2016, 09:20:35 PM »
I think I'll hang my hat on that old reliable, "we don't win, show up, compete in the eastern time zone" prognostication. I'm giving us an "L" for the Army game......hoo-rah!

I looked more into it and I agree with you on the Army game. Our DC wants nothing to do with military teams offense. He can coach against spreads, passing, & run offenses, but an offense is a master at 5yrd gains is difficult to coach against for those who don't see it much.

Go Miners
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The Mine / Re: Two Nice possible gets for Basketball
« Last post by liebestraum on December 06, 2016, 08:38:00 PM »
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But why no one gets fed up with Kugler in this town like they do with Floyd is a head scratcher?

Two reasons I think.
First:  Basketball is expected and demanded to be successful.  Football is more of a hope and wish in terms of success, with a long history of failure.
Second:  Floyd is a famous coach with lots of experience and success.  Kug is a first-time HC.

I would add three more thoughts to this:

1.). The fans did get fed up with Kugler this year.  The attendance results are proof of that.

2.). At this point in time, the primary measurement of success for a UTEP Basketball Coach is to make the NCAA Tournament.  The primary measurement of success for a UTEP Football Coach is to make a Bowl Game.  Kugler has accomplished his primary goal at least once and made a Bowl Game.  Kugler also delivered UTEP's only winning season in the past 11 years.  Floyd has not accomplished his equivalent goal yet, which explains why fans are more fed up with him.

3.). Floyd has been here almost twice as long as Kugler(7 years vs. 4 years).  If Kugler coached here 7 years and never made a Bowl Game, then I am certain that you would see the same level of hostility towards Kugler, that Floyd is now receiving today.

I think it simply because Kugler looks like (and probably could) beat the shit out of you if you pissed him off.  Floyd?  Nah.

lieb
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The Mine / Re: Two Nice possible gets for Basketball
« Last post by UTEPDefense on December 06, 2016, 07:33:36 PM »
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But why no one gets fed up with Kugler in this town like they do with Floyd is a head scratcher?

Two reasons I think.
First:  Basketball is expected and demanded to be successful.  Football is more of a hope and wish in terms of success, with a long history of failure.
Second:  Floyd is a famous coach with lots of experience and success.  Kug is a first-time HC.

I would add three more thoughts to this:

1.). The fans did get fed up with Kugler this year.  The attendance results are proof of that.

2.). At this point in time, the primary measurement of success for a UTEP Basketball Coach is to make the NCAA Tournament.  The primary measurement of success for a UTEP Football Coach is to make a Bowl Game.  Kugler has accomplished his primary goal at least once and made a Bowl Game.  Kugler also delivered UTEP's only winning season in the past 11 years.  Floyd has not accomplished his equivalent goal yet, which explains why fans are more fed up with him.

3.). Floyd has been here almost twice as long as Kugler(7 years vs. 4 years).  If Kugler coached here 7 years and never made a Bowl Game, then I am certain that you would see the same level of hostility towards Kugler, that Floyd is now receiving today.

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The Mine / Re: 2017 Schedule, Yikes!
« Last post by SAMiner on December 06, 2016, 06:35:58 PM »
I think I'll hang my hat on that old reliable, "we don't win, show up, compete in the eastern time zone" prognostication. I'm giving us an "L" for the Army game......hoo-rah!
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The Mine / Re: NOT TO RUB SALT IN THE WOUND BUT......
« Last post by Chanson on December 06, 2016, 04:24:49 PM »
He made the better choice.

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The Mine / Re: Two Nice possible gets for Basketball
« Last post by SisyphusMiner on December 06, 2016, 04:14:12 PM »
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But why no one gets fed up with Kugler in this town like they do with Floyd is a head scratcher?

Two reasons I think.
First:  Basketball is expected and demanded to be successful.  Football is more of a hope and wish in terms of success, with a long history of failure.
Second:  Floyd is a famous coach with lots of experience and success.  Kug is a first-time HC.
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The Mine / NOT TO RUB SALT IN THE WOUND BUT......
« Last post by EPTAKE5 on December 06, 2016, 12:41:52 PM »
IH LED UCLA OVER KY WITH 19 POINTS
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The Mine / Re: Two Nice possible gets for Basketball
« Last post by utep2step on December 06, 2016, 10:10:43 AM »
I was looking over Verbal Commits and thought the name was down twice, but in fact CTF and company are looking to grab a 4★ recruit along with his brother.

2017 SG Devante Doutrive (6-5, 185, 4★) is from Anchorage, AK, but plays in Cali. He is part of a package deal with his brother 2018 PG Devonaire Doutrive (6-5, 170, 2★). Both are great size guards and it would be great if we can win them. I'm not sure how we can afford to pick up another kid next year, but this is a 4★ and room must be made for that.

Devante averages 23ppg, 3apg, 9rpg, & 2spg. WOW.

It is very early still so no one blow their wad quite yet.

Chanson, he's done and Floyd knows he's done. This town is totally disgusted with Floyd and Floyd has no one to blame but himself. Sure, will another organization or college take him on to coach their team? Oh, hell yes! He has way to much experience and he feels there is still some gas left in the tank. He just F'ed this wagon with his recruiting. El Pasoans are like UT football fans, there is only so much they will put with. But why no one gets fed up with Kugler in this town like they do with Floyd is a head scratcher?
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